The Secret. Lives of INTJs by. Anna Moss .. INTJ Matches: Research and Theory Marriage and Satisfaction. INTJ PROFILE (The Mastermind / Scientist). 1. Profile of the INTJ. (Mastermind / Scientist). Compiled and edited by Minh Tan. Words of Caution to Interpreting. (Introversion, Intuition, Thinking, Judging). ESTJ ESFJ ENFJ ENTJ. inTJ. The above four letters are known as a 'type' and are based on the Myers-Briggs Type .
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Page 1 of 4 - [eBook] 16 Personalities - INTJ Premium Profile - posted in E-Books INTJs form just two percent of the populat. Download link. Mastermind (INTJ), is even scarcer. Individuals of your type make up little more than % of the total population. About Your Rational Temperament. There are. INTJ indicates a person who is energized by time alone (Introverted), who focuses on ideas and concepts rather than facts and details (iNtuitive), who makes.
As if the pain, itself, was a foot in the door of entering in and seeing the whole picture. To find an entrance into an INTJ is much, much more difficult. But most cultures diminish the importance of these styles. But like all things we come out of the hatch with, it can be used defensively. The Driver is Perspectives.
With me fitting in all the traits of an INTJ and also being extemly shy, what would be some good jobs to look into? Advice is truly appreciated. I see you wrote this a long time ago but perhaps my thoughts will still be relevant. And I will be honest, there will always be those times you feel alone. You will probably never have a large group of close friends that understand you. I suggest when you get to college find someone with whom you can discuss politics, find another person with whom you can enjoy art and music, and yet another to delve into philosophy and the meaning of it all.
You will be hard pressed to find someone who can keep up with you interests. But you will still find yourself alone at party wondering why you came. I hope you are still open to advise or just some thoughts. I have a few friends, but only one close friend outside of my family.
The INTJ “Mastermind” Personality Type
As far as which university to go to, the best advice I can give is to go somewhere large enough to have a wide variety of people. I agree with Ms. Mann, that it can be beneficial to have a few different groups for discussing different interests. There seem to be more of these people in the science and engineering fields, so if you go into the medical field I think you will be likely to find them. My personal passions are space and physics, so mechanical engineering made sense, so I can eventually work on rockets and do my best to be sent up on one.
I should say that I started as a computer science major, and found it very difficult to decide to switch majors because I felt embarassed to have made a mistake. While you may not have the same concerns or face the same problems, I hope that this was helpful to you. My sister is also a senior this year and so I am reminded of the unpleasant stress that that year brings. If I could give advice to myself at your age, I would tell me to be less afraid of new situations and remind her that mistakes are good for learning.
Maybe this is one of the missing pieces of the puzzle that needs to be seen. I was literally moved to tears — as I read it, I felt truly understood.
So, we tend to marginalize problem-solvers…. We also tend to favor efficiency over effectiveness, which will drive an INTJ crazier than anything. However, more importantly and very happily: I now know why and how I was able to land where I am today — in a deeply loving marriage to my INTP husband, the most genuinely honest person I know, to whom I made myself vulnerable and was rewarded with his complete trust and esteem. It makes the MBTI more human than the traditional verbiage.
Is that really me? Is it lack of clarity on my part? Something I forgot to mention is that I have some issues with the Myers-Briggs system.
I have found other personality frameworks that describe me more fully, so that might also be contributing to the slight malaise I feel over this indecisiveness. Hun, you can be an INTJ without being an emotionless robot. You can have a true self that only the special few get to witness AND a friendly, slightly reserved exoskeleton that you use on a daily basis to interact with a world you care about.
I have the INTJ personality and my life is falling apart. I suffer from the pride emotion paired with the unwillingness to forgive. Life is so incredibly hard. How do I feel better? Melissa, I was so sad to read this. The most you can ask of yourself is to come to an understanding of how and why the offense occurred — no more, no less.
BUT when you are finally able to achieve the state of forgiveness, you will simply stop wishing for the past to have been different, and you will then be able to refocus your energies and decisions purely on today and tomorrow. In other words, forward and onward, not backward. You will stop fueling the past and picking at that psychological scab. You are in complete control of your emotional and mental well-being in the present and future. It really is a muscle that just needs flexing.
We really do have a capacity for extreme empathy. There must be a reason — quite a few, probably — that you married your husband, not the least of which he must be, at minimum, a decent human being, i. Only then can you respond with an authentic answer, rather than a dismissive deflection off your prideful armor. I always trace the true beginning of my deeply happy relationship with my INTP husband to our first fight, which happened when we were rather newly dating.
For the very first time in my love life, I did not dismiss him immediately and pridefully. Instead, I truly listened, stayed in the conversation, and made myself vulnerable.
It was an epiphany to me how quickly and easily we solved the argument, and it deepened the bond between us. I really do enjoy the work with children and I love my life. Throughout the years my exoskeleton got pretty solid. But here the problems start. And when I try out to start a relationship I mess it up, putting too much efforts into the other person and the whole situation.
Will I be lonely? Will I regret not having children!? Socializing and all that stuff is very hard for me, I often have to force me to talk to the parents etc.
But sometimes I hate to be lonely. Hi Ika. Same INTJ here: Fantastic article! Thanks for this! Excellent piece. I also enjoy thinking in logical steps and subscribing to a planned schedule. I have been extremely introverted all my life but I also seem to yearn connection with others.
Wow, reading this article was a little bizarre. Bizarre because I feel as if I relate to it in a lot of ways, which, I think, is a little unfortunate in some ways. For example, I often myself to be very frustrated with myself.
I think that kind of sucks. I mentioned all this because it leaves me feeling confused about what the hell I want to do with my life. I feel as if no career path is right for me because I think they are all extremely limiting. I want to do something great and fulfilling but life seems to offer the paradoxical case of offering so many cars and also so little roads. But anyways, no matter how disappointed I may currently be with my lack of meeting my own standards, I know that, at the end of the day, none of it is really all that big of a deal.
I live in a first world country and I grew up with good enough parents. I will continue to live, grow, and perform to the best of abilities and emotions.
Sorry if you read this whole mess of nonsense expecting some semblance of an intellectual conclusion. Antonia, you are a magician. I feel as if you peered through my past and future. At 28 years old I believe I have gone through 4 very painful exoskeleton regrowths. I want you to know how important that part in the article was for me. I much prefer your explanation, mostly because it explains my current hunger to grow even further.
I can think of 4 clear moments in my life where I was forced to grow a new exoskeleton. Fun Fact: To INTJs: Shedding your exoskeleton is the hardest but most important adventure you will ever embark on.
It is a journey to your greater self. If pain is inevitable, choose the pain that will lead you to your greatest reward. That was a very interesting observation because it feels very true for me.
Big changes feel frightening. But it feels good to think of it as shedding an old skin to grow into something new. This post is really cool. I have bookmarked it. Do you allow guest posting on your site? I can provide high quality articles for you. Let me know. Antonia, you are truly gifted… you touched on some very important aspects of this personality type… the inner workings for relationships especially.
Thanks so much. Im still in high school, and sometimes it drives me crazy how I just know stuff. I can explain it after a bit, but I figure it out without knowing how. I thought I was weird or there was something wrong with me- thats what all the teachers told me. It really used to drive my chess master crazy that I could figure out the best move, or avoid traps without being able to explain why and he insisted that I would run out of luck someday.
After reading this, I realised that Im good at seeing repeating patterns and avoid the disadvantageous ones. My teachers always hated that I could memorise things fast and somehow figure out answers they couldnt- despite me doing A levels, where this is required.
I dont think they liked the fact that I enjoy working alone and somehow still manage to get the best grades. They always said I was lazy and would never get anywhere. Many people have told me that Im cold blooded and emotionless, and it was really beginning to worry me.
Ive always hated crowds and usually just sit with a good book, something that a lot of people really hated- they never got that there was only so much time I could spend talking about other people. Thank you again. I cant tell you how relieved this has made me. I just realised that my comment seems to be kinda pity seeking, but thats not how I meant it. I did. Like, a long time ago right after the first person caught it.
I fixed them. Thanks for making us aware of them Kyle. Great… You have great knowledge in this: Keep on sharing.. Very interesting to know about this. Arthropod, not anthropod. Arthropods are spiders, crustaceans and insects. I think Anthropod might be a band or something. Thank you for such a great article. As an INTJ male i wanted to add something about the effectiveness and efficiency. I live in a third world country in middle east.
As you know third world countries tend to mimic from developed countries like yours. They try to implement the exact systems that your countries have implemented without thinking about it or trying to see if it fits the current situation.
When i offer them solutions , they tend to measure my efficiency and they will decline my solutions. Antonia, You are very good at this: At all. How you receive the information, process, decide and feel does not have anything to do with your IQ.
And also finding ways to overcome incredibly and objectively hard challenges in my life completely on my own, without any help. But I am never the smarter person in the room and my IQ is quite standard. What I am almost invariably, is the most organized, analytical, problem solver, effective, focused, strong, avid learner, and able to cope with frustration person in the room.
That is why I am where I am now. I truly enjoy being around other INTJs, as the creative aura can be intoxicating, but only my youngest child shares this personality type with me. My husband and 3 other children do not [sigh]. My wife of 14 years is an INTJ.
She was miss understood and abused by her family. She suffered multiple traumas before the age of They locked her up basically and I helped her. We have 5 kids and throughout I knew she was special. She is the most caring and closest to God that ive ever seen.
I knew showing her would lead to an enlightening, which isnt in my best interest, but the right way. She has grown exponentially. God bless her and I hope she gets what she needs now, living poor has been hard for her. Wow, I really enjoyed this article, and almost enjoyed reading the comments as much! Very few people can relate to that. Reading this page today, I feel that I am not the only one out there!
So awesome! Very real and nice article. I can relate. Thank you for making me understand some things about myself. INTJ here. Just like Taylor Thomas, I had the same teary reactions. Maybe because this is so introspective.
They might be intelligent, analytical blabla but they suffer as hell. Being a student of Integral Theory and a practitioner of my own design Evolutionary Guide I have long said — and believed — that typing systems become less and less accurate [especially as predictors of behavior] the more we evolve through vertical stages in the Self-developmental line ego, mostly.
Which is accurate. But I was invalidating typing systems in general. Or rather, my good friend Mia Cara had me read this. I have never felt so understood and my emotional life so well explained in any context ever. Until now. I now send this — as a matter of course — after a first date and let them know if they want to understand me, this post is the Clift Notes — and ask them to pay special attention to the parts on emotions and emotional life.
What better than a totalizing logical-systemic theory of conscious evolution that outlines a specific set of steps to enlightenment? Add in the spiritual, introspective aspects e. Thinkers like Edwards, Torbert, Kegan, Ferrer posit models beyond or orthogonal to that of Integral Theory, and I personally support a plurality of models since mere language cannot capture reality in all of its radical complexity and variation.
It becomes more about self-applied praxis and personal experimentation e. We humans necessarily attach to certain ones and reject others leading to fundamental misunderstanding and divisiveness. Hey Antonia, just wanted to say thanks for the read. You nailed me. I had both chills and tears as I worked through your post.
I loved that you highlighted the sensitivity of INTJs in your post. I really loved the abstract wiki quote on exoskeletons. Most of the shit I read is all the same; we are strategic, analytical, blah blah blah. You put a much needed spotlight on the guarded emotional side we have. This is the first time ever that I have gotten the results of extrovert.
And it is wrong. I am an introvert. The only people who might say that I am not very reserved are my students, for whom I have to put on an act to draw them out to speak English I am an oral English teacher in a Chinese college. I NEED alone time. Being with other people for long periods of time drains me of energy because it over-stimulates.
Thanks for your comment, Jael. It is INTJ. If it is the Effectiveness process that is confusing you since it is Extraverted , read the article. We all have introverted and extraverted functions. But INTJs lead with an introverted function. Best article I have read about…well… me! My group just did some personality tests and I will make sure to break out of my exoskeleton long enough to tell them to make it over to this site. I am also a long-time GTD follower and would love to contribute in any way I can to discovering any tips on how to maximize the system for my personality type.
Thanks again! I have often told people mostly professors that I think in bullet points, not in flowery prose. Interesting to read in the comments most of my thoughts.
Yeah, I read this over at another website: On a side note, I also just realized why I really like reading Jane Austen! Definitely challenging being an INTJ woman. There were at least 3 of us at my last job.
Was awesome to understand a coworker for once. This description really deep dives into the nuances of how we approach life. Thank you for this post. Never have found a better way to protect against harm than to stay in the lab, though. Most of the time, if you let them in too far, they kick your guts out and have a good laugh.
I agree with your breaking up in parts, it is a very useful technique. They only have to be influenced to do their part of the solution, they need not know the whole of the idea. It is really difficult to understand that what It is so obvious to you, it automatically ensues a triggering of everyone elses defenses on any topic. Be it at the university, workplace or at any place in the world. Prepare yourself for showdowns about almost everything with every single naive and shallow interlocutor.
Being the sole target of almost every average joe in the world and the last guy on earth to be remembered as a cool guy by few, after a decade or two OFC, when by chance some of them reached some stage of maturity. Just because once you gave someone a sharp and logical answer into his very important and once never challenged enough subject. Since I work with students on the university level with finding majors and careers, we use quite a bit of assessments.
So thank you for such a thorough and down to earth understanding of my type. I like it. The fear of being abused acquired from the social stigma and rejection of authenticity, creates a double-effect that combines the already present authenticity with even more mistrust. This happens because the world fears truth.
The solution for dishonest people is to bring the system against them. Let nature sort them out. Definitely more of trust issue than a sensitivity issues. This could have saved me so much existential teenage angst ten years ago. Overly critical of myself and others. The negative backlash resulted in a retreat from reality to a place where I could comfortably control everything I came in contact with. But that was unsatisfying because it lacked the stimulus required for me to develop and learn.
Growing from awkward adolescent into even more awkward twenty-something who found themselves with even less in common with her friends than before she retreated away from them, fertilised a rich and vibrant garden of self-doubt.
Well, I no longer scream silently in my head while they prattle on. Most of the time. Great comment. Anyway, This intj profile rocks. The comments are pretty good too if 7 years pre-useful, seriously, all of us, come back in 7 years And read your bs from back then and get ready to throw up in your mouth a little.
But good stuff. Post-cult, check. First divorce, check. Boundaries with mentally ill ex wife, minus the happy ending where she gets better on her own, plus a funeral no one told me about and a one line obit a relative alerted me To days later, check.
Left family eh, her story, I tire of fighting it and proceeded to have 8 phenomenal months of Effectiveness , literally ending up as an executive at a 50m revenue company managing 6 VPs lol. Felt needed, that was accurate. Helping my wife when she is sick or they are. Best part of life since the return has been she and I recommited has been learning to love her More.
Learning to value her brilliance. I believe she is an ISFP. Drives me effing mad in every way, and I her. Too bad there isnt a prize for learning to love and cherish one another. I need to decide tho how long before living meaninglessly family life becomes mentally too dangerous.
Never ever ever worth it. The only alternative is just permanent meaninglessness and a mfing minnievan. Legos are fun. I guess. I should watch sports. INTJ here — found this page while searching for some new career ideas as I desperately need some kind of reboot. I found the way you described us both informative and beautiful. This deserves a spot in my fairly restricted browser bookmarks so I can share it with others and revisit it myself occasionally. Thank you. Thanks for the feedback JJ!
I have read many articles on the various personalities. Of course, mostly on INTJ, as it is my personality type. Yours is an interesting perspective, definitely a nice addition to the discourse. I may appreciate this one a little more, perhaps as it seems to come from a more personal, experienced place, and makes me feel accepted in some of what I have deemed to be and what may well be neuroses.
No, we are not squishy — I have never been squished. Is this projection, an attempt to present it to a feeling audience or are you merely forgetting that we rationalize such things away? An INTJ crying in your arms — sounds more like a narcissist trying to emotionally manipulate you.
The sensitivity gives way to analysis — why would other people behave like this? Sure, to an extent we get freaked out on an emotional level but ultimately it is rationalized as other peoples mental illnesses.
In many cases this is entirely correct; individuals with clinical personality disorders massively outnumber us. You may be superimposing your own experience onto the type and mistaking it to be the experience of all INTJs. As evidence, look at the other comments from fellow INTJs under this article.
Wow…broken hearted INTJ here, recently had my squish center raked over the coals. Spot on. I feels that this essay was written specifically about me. I know who i am know. As you said, I can get into their heads and hearts. They seem to think I did it intentionally though, and feel they have the right to intentionally be rude to me. Professionally, I work in project management, and while I greatly enjoy influencing the development of new operational plans and processes, I find I can be incredibly demotivated by: Or at least these were the most frustrating things I attributed to being INTJ… I long ago assumed I was a weirdo outlier INTJ who was ridiculously internally sensitive, and very unlike my highly logical psychopath-esque peers.
I pride myself on my objectivity and my logical and analytical approach to any and every problem… yet, I am hypersensitive to criticism, and seem to take any sign of rejection and equate it immediately to Armageddon. I have found your article on INTJ and as one confirmed by tests and professionals , I must admit you have made my thoughts a bit clearer now.
In 4 years I changed 4 countries, I work a lot…almost the whole day, but I also take on crazy experiences such is a jet ride or climbing the heights…driving relaxes my mind.
We are all quite different personality tests say as well , however these articles are very important in order to shed some light on personality types so that all gain some sort of mass-understanding. I think these should be taught in schools. Not many people are doing the insights into themselves…not many people tend to understand the fact that we are all different. Perhaps, if that would change we might all just end up a bit more happier as persons and a lot less alone.
Marijuana is quite possibly the best of intoxicants. The picture with the two boys at the end with the paragraph next to it drove tears to my eyes. It reflects how I feel and what emotional connection I seek, this also explains why some protection has to be built around the little boy.
Thanks for the comment, Helge! Are you saying the need for connection can be so desperate for an INTJ that a protective wall needs to be in place? To guard against people who may take advantage? I will keep this brief because I have a tremendous amount of work that needs to be done. However, Antonia, this is one of the most accurate depictions of myself that I have ever read, and I read quite a bit.
If there is any way at all that you could connect me with other INTJs it would be much appreciated. I am surrounded by people that do not understand me and it is such a hassle to have to constantly explain. Having at least one person that gets it would be convenient, especially in accomplishing my goals. Feel free to join us there.
There are lots of INTJs. This is why I love to play golf. Competition Golf to be more to the point. My parents never understood my mind. They always thought I was a bad person and would try to change the vital ways I thought. It was horrible and I acted out horribly as well. They never saw what I saw. They equited my high level of thought and processing to rebellion and sin.
And the group that surrounded my family would try to tell me the same things. But they insisted I was just being a rebellious strong willed child. So I accepted this and tried to change but it never worked. I actually ended up going the other way. Got into a lot of trouble. Ran away from home and sold vast amount of drugs when I was Stole a car.
Ended up in the crazy house for two weeks. They tried to get me to take drugs. I refused. Then they had my parents come in and tell me they were going to let me out if I consented to state supervision. I walked right back into that nut house. I knew it. I so knew I was being lied to by the state. Really messed up. This happened a year out of HS. I hated HS. I was convinced to attend college. Studied web development and management.
Was top in my class. Then I got a summer job working for the schools web department. They paid me like 8 dollars an hour to clean up HTML. My professor told me to slow down on the work. I was making everyone look bad. I was being underutilized. I said f this and quit. I started selling weed. Though my negotiation skills were lacking — I had that game down to a science. I was making just enough to hide under the radar. Built up a customer list. My book making was good as well.
I saw the way the industry was moving and my skills learned at school were going to be obsolete in 5 years.
This meant 80 hours a week devoted to a trade that gave more value then it was getting back. Technology does make life easier but it is also a double edge sword in so many aspects. I started pondering lately the actual need to read and write. A tribe of people were found on a Island with no modern civilization.
But yet they still exist. A stupid game. Kind of like golf. But golf has rules that are very hard to break. A microcasm of life that can be practiced and applied and striving to prefect. But never perfect. This makes sense to me. The nerves turn off my brain.
My parents discouraged me from playing when I was So I started hitchhiking to the course. So they outcast me. The only way it stops is when I reacting. Responding means I must think first. Golf turns that off for brief moments. I love it. I got into a car accident 5 years ago on my 30th birthday. But this spring I shot a 66 and tried to qualify for the US Open.
We all die. Thanks for the space for the unformatted rant. Thanks for your comment, Michael. It sounds like you are feeling pretty discouraged. As a Sensation inferior, it can feel good to indulge. Getting out of the house and getting some exercise, like golfing, will feed your Sensation 3 year old and prevent you from craving the indulgences of drugs and alcohol.
So, keep a regular routine of getting out of your head and into your body. Your last few comments regarding death lead me to believe you are spending too much time in your 10 year old process of Authenticity. You will do much better working on Effectiveness, and it will bring you more contentment.
Look for ways to streamline processes in your life or work. See if there are any projects you can coordinate, delegate, and manage.
Put people in the jobs that fit their skill level. Avoid the tendency to wallow and instead look at the world in terms of systems that can be managed and improved by you.
Hi Michael. But first.. Because the way I see it, it hurt, and it was true, and you were not lying nor were you unfair nor biased about you and the people around you.
What you ranted about was how you truly saw it, felt it, experienced it, hardly any embellishments. You are of course not perfect. You were just here. And you were how you were. This may sound unclear, and abstract. So may you bear with me. And in my hopes of conveying my message and sincerity, here I go. So in that imaginary place and time, maybe I could listen to them, and understand them, and embrace them.
Just as it was done for me. As a fellow who had undergone very similar pains tho I doubt I can ever say mine was greater than yours, nor will I ever say that , what I would say is that you keep searching for that place. Without trying to even explain why. Sincerely yours, Dane. Boy, so much of this rings true for me.
Even when I re-take tests using the exact opposite of the questions that were borderline for me. Is that INTJ behavior, haha? I would say that measuring and managing are something that only the reasoning half of the brain feels compelled to do, and that often it misses the point.
Thanks for the comment Joe! When I am struggling to figure out a type, I look in the back seat. When you are feeling stressed, or not at your best, do you become self-obsessed and convinced of your own rightness despite all evidence to the contrary? Do you want to wallow in self-indulgence and comfort, completely ignoring what is right over what feels good? That is the tertiary process of authenticity Fi. Do you find yourself more concerned with the human element?
If so, that would indicate a Harmony Fe tendency. Freedom is important for me,I fight for it via my hacking ability of nature interest. I are trying to learn everything as system to fight and progress,,,bad,,,I am located in China. Thank you for an incredible and insightful ariticle! Thanks to all that posted. I am a loner and prefer it that way. I am trying to find the balance between knowledge and achieving without retreating for what I thirst for. I believe as being shot down so many times in life for thinking different, being shunned at work for how I think and do led to this.
No one can take my ability to learn from me, but how I use it externally I have yet to find a balance in life. It was my quest for answers and understanding both that have gotten me to this point.
I came out of a severely abusive marriage with PTSD. Started to search what was missing in me, what I lost. I do have an uncanny way of looking outside myself to see others perspective, understand their reasoning even emotions so that I can relate, use rationale not my emotions or preferred judgements in dealing with a given situation.
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That said, I pulled myself out and only now began to search to understand me. As I am. That which has been a constant throughout my life. Somehow I stumbled upon personality types. Now I get me for the first time. I am comfortable with much of me, but some not so much. I know I am capable of doing anything I put my mind too. Lmao bet most can relate. That will make you happy. More like why not? I hide it all so well hence the depression and tears that controlled me for months irked the crap out of me.
Yes I got help, but through logical means and not psychobabble. For me it matters not what you say, it is how I can relate and use the info provided to move forward and most were geared towards external gratification and pats on backs. Cheering squads are more baggage of external stimuli that I cringe from. Guess all of this is the beginning of growth and knowing that there are only two paths to take that allows me to process what I need. Only one path is logical and of use.
Your article is eye opening and has helped me to begin to shed my old and embrace my new. Sounds corny. Oh well. One note…really wish you had a preview button before posting. Being on a mobile device does cause errors and the submit button is way too close to the text box allowing submission while trying to maneuver through what was written. Thank you for sharing your personal journey!
Sounds like you have had a lot to overcome. I am glad you are finding the tools you need to heal and grow. Thank you for this summary of the INTJ personality.
It fools yourself and others. They all had a lot of made-up ideas about me because the exoskeleton-me is cold, quiet, prideful, a bit too honest and looks antisocial. So I end up having no confidence and hating myself a little, sometimes. Because contradictions. What do I want. No one to make the exoskeleton fall by itself. Thanks for the comment Melina! Remember, the article said that incredible growth only comes after an INTJ willingly lets go of their hard outer shell.
Otherwise, you suffocate. Open yourself up to new relationships and let your true self show through more. The rewards can be life-changing! I spent a lot of time trying to find my personality type. This is so me! I remember clearly of times where people said things to me that caught me off guard, and I knew they were going to hurt me, so I hurt them first with brutal honesty.
And they were old friends! Having a. Ok…seriously this article on INTJs made me smile and giggle like a child. I have never been proud of a complete and utter stranger, but you have managed that with your article. You rock! I received the INTJ classification every single time….
I am just about to turn 30 and feel that I can never find enough stuff to cure my insatiable thirst for information and novelty. Great stuff! Every time I get down or depressed, I simply take a step back and look at the immense beauty and complexity of the systems that surround me every single second of every single day. It can be a system, a theory, a problem, or even a fleeting idea. I feel for you guys.
Anyways, thank you so much Antonia, as you are an excellent source to bringing meaningful dialogue to the arena of personality psychology. I will continue to listen to your podcast and support you guys in any way that I can.
Thanks for your comment! All the farsightedness of Perspectives teamed with the ambition and logic of Effectiveness, without the need to filter everything through interpersonal dynamics…. Congratulations on finding what works for you and for embracing your unique talents.
INTJ, female, 43 y. The achieving-aspect of the article is what I needed most right now, and I wish to thank you for writing it. In this period I have been feeling a bit lost inside my head as I have been brooding for too long over the book which I am about to write.
I think about it for soooooo long till I am absolutely exhausted. At the point, with not energy left, I manage to start writing, at last. Which is stupid, really, because I know perfectly well that starting anywhere will be ok, and the starting is the most important step actually: Your solution, measuring up progresses, clarifying small goals and transferring from the big picture to the execution of one task at a time has always worked beautifully with me. It has been like this for every book, so why am I surprised?
I just hoped I would learn to cut some corners, with the experience on my side. Would love if you could share your suggestions about this, in case other INTJ have faced this problem before. I am very indecisive, in general. What a great article! You were spot on. You did a great job with this article. Keep up the good work! I really enjoyed your article; it was fantastic.
This is very helpful. I tried to read it online, and then ended up printing all 27 pages of it, so I could mark with a pen, highlight stuff, etc etc some of the comments-conversations were remarkably fascinating; there was one bloke in a sad spot though. Anyway, a question for you: If this is so, then would ISFPs be equally sensitive? After all, their primary and tertiary functions are the same, just reversed. I did search around before asking this question.
I hope the grieving process is short. I feel like my potential was always suppressed by my parents. They are the only one where I could share my ideas and plans yet every time I share it to them, they would dismiss it prematurely and never consider my thoughts.
They are always against on my future plans. I believe in myself no matter what. I like this sentence: And now, I started teaching few people how to achieve financial freedom by creating multiple source of income.
No one can stop me from doing the right things. Currently struggling. I could use some healing, but I have a deep drive and desire to create, produce and achieve. I can spend all day at the library, or buying some marketing course and digging in. I aspire to open a business, failed a couple of times and have learned a lot. I replied on this comment because Nonsense seems to have figured out something I could use.
Anyway, with all of that back ground information and I could give you a lot more , my question is: When it comes to being effective, and producing real income, are you aware of anything an intj would enjoy doing to get decently instant income?
It seems all of my ideas are complex creatures that require a lot of things in place in order to make it work. Maybe all of the little pieces are just a stall of some sort. But funding is very important piece.
Thank you in advance for your comments and help, I appreciate it. My mom also dismiss anything I say. Made the first in sales with zero marketing. She went to a drawing school but can only do sticky figures. I watched enough drawing videos on youtube to make these drawings here: We, INTJ have so much potential we can succeed in whatever thing we put our minds to. Elisa, Thank you for that very encouraging message!
It occasionally seems funny to me to be the "criminal mastermind" type and spending all my talents at home. But nothing seems more crucial to me than teaching, training, mentoring and loving other human beings. I love getting to know them and trying to help them grapple with life and learn what their talents and passions are. I hope to support them in a way that enables them to find their purpose. Thanks again. You are welcome! I have a suggestion Money Mustache.
Lately, I have been immersed in Dr. Jordan Peterson's youtube channel on The Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories, having been interested in psychology since my university days and currently attend Bible studies. What are your areas of interest and thoughts on this? I encourage you to also invest in yourself!
What can I say that hasn't already been said. Shocked is an understatement when I did the test, emphatically accurate! As you evolved with time, did you find happiness and a feeling of accomplishment?
It is nice reading to all your comments and realizing I am not the only one. Best Wishes! I am sorry to hear that you are really struggling. What gives you meaning? When my first child was 7 months old, I had a full time nanny take care of her, while I worked full time for 3 months. Therefore, I took on a part time position that effectively was a demotion.
Fast forward to today, I am still working part time. Hope this helps! Hi there. I just breathed a sigh of relief to find you all, as I'm relating with almost all of what has been said here. I have often felt so alone in how I view or carry out our homeschool due to my personality that it makes for some dark days and doubting.
Some days there is fulfillment in knowing we're giving them the best we can. But, there are days when I feel the opposite for all parties invovled myself included!
It has been helpful to read the last comment from Elisa about keeping things into perspective Thank you all for being open and honest. I wish we could all have a facebook group together. Know that this thread has been an answer to prayer from frustration as I'm contemplating whether to continue homeschooling next year or not. Best wishes to you all in your endeavors, fellow INTJ women. Thanks for your suggestion NatD! Based on our personality types and the rarity of finding one of us in the general population it is safe to say that we believe ourselves to be odd because we do not encounter many people like ourselves.
Thus based on our understanding of regular society we consider ourselves to be odd. I had never encountered anyone quite like myself in 50 years, which caused me to think that I was unique until I discovered INTJ-A and its meaning. True to type but with a better understanding of how I fit into the overall scheme of things, I still consider myself to be blessed with a rare gift. I fit all the INTJ descriptions, but I too am Christian and have valued raising my family and spending time with my kids.
I also volunteer at church and in my community. Your pursuit of order is admirable, but don't take yourself too seriously! Order and lots of kids is close to impossible. Your best bet might be controlled chaos.
It is very difficult to find alone time with kids and family commitments - I found that to be the most exhausting part of raising a family. Use your drive to raise your kids to be the people you want them to be, then give it over to God.
Me too!!!! Knowing my personalitiy would have been such a confidence booster as a younger woman! I'm 33 now. Had a ton of kids. Had a sleeping baby on me as I read your comments.
Learning constantly. I have no income, which is a constant source of discouragement for me! I don't mean to be proud but looking back I know I could have been a doctor, scientist, anything. I love science and learning. My brother is an electrical engineer, mom a teacher, dad an engineer at Space Center. Sometimes I think I've failed to become qualified to make money and sometimes I wonder if God has me exactly where I am because he values my time with my children more than a second income would benefit my family.
Oh my goodness. I've kind of fallen into hippie medicine. I have no idea what I'm supposed to do with my life still. I guess I'm doing it but feeling like I've got some fire burning to accomplish something more than educate my kids. Honestly, I feel like that's wildly important but much easier than people make it and that there's more I could be doing. No adivce for you Claire, but awesome to meet someone else with same passions and personality. Like yourself I am very family-oriented and spritual.
Less "religious" than spiritual. Daily studies in the word. Perhaps, speculation based on the way that we think. Just try to enjoy the process of improving because there is always something to work on! I am a data analyst, and I love it!
I could not homeschool, but I respect you for it. I would drive my children nuts and we would all be miserable. They are best taught in their wonderful school. We all do love learning, and share the love together. I was fortunate enough to be able to stay at home with them until they went to school. I was so ready to rejoin the work force. While I was intimidated, when I went back to work I found my nitch.
I would continue to focus on your children, until you feel they are ready for the next phase, then the work and the opportunities will come to you.
I promise. God has a way of working things out for us. I decided to go back to school about a year ago to pursue computer programming. Would love any advice you have! I would love to pick your brain and learn how you got to where you are now in life. I am always looking for a new direction. I hope to talk to you. I am an INTJ and have always had artistic and musical gifts drawing, graphic design, piano, etc - I think it goes with the territory.
However, I have not developed those talents to any significant degree. I love complex systems and organization and this career was a good match for me. I've been much happier working on my own, but I find writing a bit tedious at times. While rewarding in its own way, I don't find it mentally stimulating. Countless nights. Such an inordinate amount of time and energy!
Good luck. Should you decide to return to the idea of fashion design, please fix the women's clothing. Functional pockets, comfort, and easy to care for are lacking in women's clothes.
Keep me posted. Hey Me, it turns out all these comments are actually you just as we suspected, or us rather. Heck I don't understand it all exactly either but that's besides the point. We keep returning to this website and agreeing with ourselves on how much we are like us. I agree. Knowledge of the various types has changed my life as well. Personality Types was one of the missing puzzle piece s I've been looking for.
Additionally, there is some debate on whether or not personalities are developed or if it is something we are all born with. I believe the latter.
If personalities could be changed or edited, the world would be out of balance. Understanding personalities is especially valuable for me in understanding why people behave the way they do; especially with the knowledge of and acceptance that most won't understand me. This is okay; this is not his or her choice or mine and I don't need everyone to understand me.
With best intentions in mind, I am learning what and when something should be shared and with who and most importantly who not to share with. Some people are not capable of understanding and I do not mean this in a negative way. What is relevant is I know my role, whether others understand or not, and continue to edit the world around me, to my liking.
When thinking about INTJ's in leadership roles, again I agree, I realize not everyone can be good at everything and I prefer to be controlling all things relevant and have to issues allowing someone else to present my ideas as their own. Hopefully some will relate to this 'gift' we've been given. Kind of an inside joke of the perceived genius relative to the outside perspective, it's a "gift" alright I also seem quite sensitive to being controlled; this is not something that I don't like or prefer, this is something that I cannot allow, if I believe I can control it anyway.
I want to be 2, but I can't allow anyone or anything to control me. What does that make me Whether I want to accept this or not, this is not up to me. I can not change. Yes, I expect everyone else to change I very well agree that there is possible that I may have lost my damn mind, but again I can relate!
On another relatively similar note, I believe our existance-life-equation is actually quite balanced, regardless of all the drama, doom and gloom crap I see, read and hear.
I find quite interesting to ponder the needs we all have. This leads me to believe all things are perfect, from a cause and effect perspective, and it helps me to justify why things are they way they are and this is very comforting. I believe things are the way they are, because they have to be, otherwise they wouldn't be.
I believe we are all equally important and all are required, even the perceivable 'crap of society'. With out them, we would be out of balance. I'm regularly impressed with how our physical laws apply to seemingly everything and I try to understand the 'net force' for all things.
Nothing happens without force and it's a bit of a trigger for me when I hear someone try to convince me that something they said or did was for no apparent reason. And the ever-ongoing follow up question of 'Why?
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Why are you trying to convince me of this? With this, now I can appreciate the lives some all people are required to live. I feel as if I should thank them, for playing the card they were dealt, because I'm happy I don't have to, but more importantly so my kids don't have to.
All people contribute equally to the required net force of life. I remind my kids and myself of this nearly each time we pass a homeless person begging for money. Historically, I almost never give, but now feel I should. This is what we all do and have in common. I need to admit that I am not much different and perfectly capable of making wrong choices that can lead me to undesirable places in life.
For now, I learn from everyone around me and say my thanks for setting an example of how not to live for anyone who will look their way. I often push people away from me for various reasons. However, when I analyze this as a problem in a system, I'm quite amazed on how non-random all events are and how I maybe missing the luster of life when I push people away. Everything that has ever happened was required to allow you to read my ramblings. I try to think about this when someone doesn't quite fit in my life, which is quite often.
We as a species are possibly very immature and have only scratched the surface of a very small scratch on the surface of a very small scratch on the surface of the unknown. I can easily imagine our understanding of anything is really an illusion, we understand pretty much nothing, we only compare. Up to any point in life regardless to how meaningless is appears, I like to reflect and realize that this moment is what everything that has ever happened in the past has lead to, thus far.
On the topic of wealth, it is fascinating to me to realize how insignificant most things are. Wealth seems to be, understandably, a worldwide goal common amongst the population, but it seems to be imaginary and potentially created to provide a net force for society to strive or improve or be controlled.
In reality life has nothing to do with money and possessions and statuses and so one. Wealth is entirely to do with life's experiences and emotions, even for us robots. Happiness is relative; it has a variable span, determined by the minimum and maximum happiness previously experienced, specific to the person.
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